The Root of All Evil?

[Simon]

Episode 1:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9002284641446868316

Episode 2:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7619161192220036050

[beekeeper]

Please edit those links ... cannot see it ...

[Simon]

Please edit those links ... cannot see it ...

Sorry about that. Some of the links posted in the forum got messed up when we converted from phpBB3 to IPB... <_<

[Steve_Barker]

Have just watched both films. Do not think either side is 100% right or wrong - but worth watching, because it is good to re-question what you believe :thoughtful:

Might put another post on....when I have done more thinking :thoughtful:

[Simon]

Have just watched both films. Do not think either side is 100% right or wrong - but worth watching, because it is good to re-question what you believe :thoughtful:

Might put another post on....when I have done more thinking :thoughtful:

Are you a believer? :halo:

[Steve_Barker]

Are you a believer? :halo:

We are all believers, even if we believe in non-believing.

We create our own reality - or we could let someone else create it for us - or we are a combination of the two.

http://www.lamrim.com/hhdl/heartsutra.html

[beekeeper]

Yes, Yes while I am Christian and follow some traditions I do not believe what a priest is saying! Not a word. I don't even go to church and I was only present on mass when people got married

Down with not the religion and tradition but down with religious institutions !!!

That is my opinon.

I would recommend Zeitgeist to all !

[Simon]

We are all believers, even if we believe in non-believing.

"Atheists don't believe in anything, except the power of reasoned rational thought, free investigation and the unfettered human spirit to succeed."

[Steve_Barker]

"Atheists don't believe in anything, except the power of reasoned rational thought, free investigation and the unfettered human spirit to succeed."

Thats a lot of things to believe in :excl:

[only_green_no_gray]

Thats a lot of things to believe in :excl:

Even the most deep atheist has to believe in something

[Simon]

Thats a lot of things to believe in :excl:

Well, there is a major differance between reasoned and rational thoughts and to believe (and worship) a god.

[Steve_Barker]

Well, there is a major differance between reasoned and rational thoughts and to believe (and worship) a god.

There is a saying that the view depends upon which mountain you are stood upon.

As someone who has worked in a scientific research establishment, doing research sponsored by an EEC quango, I find it difficult to accept that science is objective, partly its who pays the piper, partly its how can I make a name for myself (don't let results that do not fit the theory get in the way of a good paper), and partly its what your peer group is expecting - hence, DL Henshaw was a maverick, but is no longer, and Rupert Sheldrake is still a maverick.

I know many people who reason, and weigh all the evidence as objectively as they can, but still come out with silly answers. Because someone is a scientist, does not mean they never come out with silly answers.

[mountainhiker]

Because someone is a scientist, does not mean they never come out with silly answers.

Many times the come out with the answers that they are PAID to come out with.... :thoughtful:

the more silly the answer, the higher the price!

[Steve_Barker]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7359258.stm

One geologist argued that unlike other longitudes, Mecca's was in perfect alignment to magnetic north.

[Simon]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7359258.stm

One geologist argued that unlike other longitudes, Mecca's was in perfect alignment to magnetic north.

Silly religious geologist.. :rolleyes:

[Steve_Barker]

Silly religious geologist..

But have we a scientist (geology) using science to back up dogma, or a dogmatist using dogma to power science?